I’m sure I make better videos than text messages. There’s nothing sophisticated about either of them, I write/speak them all myself, quoting occasionally from an outside source, well maybe more than occasionally?
Who the hell is Michael Noble?
Can you understand that brief sentence, it says I haven’t a clue who Michael Noble is, so if I knew of him from years gone by, I have no recollection of him now. This isn’t very sophisticated, is it! Michael Noble took it upon himself to write a argument against the idea that XXY’s are male, and only male. Of course we both mean XXY boys born with unambiguously male genitalia. Michael wants to assert that he is somehow not really male and cites experiences of his youth as justification for his argument. He quotes extensively from the former NZKA/NZSCS, myself, and Mark Hope. Sexuality, by the way, is not a feature of XXY any more than it is a feature of XY or XX. All people whatever their sex chromosomes can have all manner of expression of sexuality.
Michael Nobles says, only he knows truly for what reason:
“………When writing the paper, I had defended the claim that they (Klinefelter’s syndrome and XXY) were one in the same thing, because of the ‘smoke-screen’ tactics of some online commentators who were exploiting the difference to support their claim that if the physical affects of KS can be masked, then this renders the additional X chromosome as meaningless.”
In Australia (OII Australia)
“…………When writing the paper, I had defended the claim that they (Klinefelter’s syndrome and XXY) were one in the same thing, because of the ‘smoke-screen’ tactics of Tucker and such like who were exploiting the difference to support their claim that if the physical affects of KS can be masked, then this renders the additional X chromosome as meaningless.”
Internationally (OII International)
Apparently I have claimed that “if the physical affects of KS can be masked, then this renders the additional X chromosome as meaningless.” and I can tell you I never have made any such a claim. This is pure fantasy. Michael Noble does have a degree in Creative Writing, I wonder if he can discover through his academic contacts, if that can equate to Creative Libel?
This isn’t very sophisticated, or complicated. If I have ever said such a thing, or anybody else for that matter, let him bring his quote forward. Remember to and go and see for yourselves all that he has said, and all that he has quoted, and see from where he got his understanding. I can tell you he invented this information. Michael Noble is a liar.
It is my earnest endeavor to take with me everywhere I go descriptions of the difficulties XXY boys can experience in their lives, and try to get them diagnosed before the onset of puberty, before Klinefelter’s syndrome can develop. That must mean I place great emphasis on the additional X and it is not ‘meaningless’ at all.
I wonder if it is Michael Noble’s position that he does indeed wish to force XXY boys to not be treated, to guarantee Klinefelter’s syndrome does develop? It certainly doesn’t change our sex, that which is determined at birth by way of our physical anatomy. I see the equally ignorant as Michael, Gina Wilson, has written a paper from her unique ilinformed position on XXY too. Is this a case of the willfully blind leading the deliberately ignorant?
I think people who are XXY are better suited to answer the question as to what sex they are than Gina Wilson is. We can find plenty of XY males who see themselves as females, live their lives as female, even transition to female, but they are biologically male.
We can’t find so many XXY males who identify as female, or intersex, simply because they don’t identify as anything but male, and I certainly identify as male. Like all other males on the planet I don’t go round saying, day in day out, ‘I identify as male’ as it is self evident that I am male.
The more we find out about human genetics the less some people seem to want to know. I have read reports recently of an XXY phenotypic female who is SRY negative, that is her SRY gene on her Y chromosome does not function. Another report of an XY phenotypic female who is SRY positive, that’s right, her SRY gene is functioning but has no effect.
That I can find 1 report of an XY phenotypic female with an SRY positive gene, does that mean that we can now say all XY males cannot be considered really male anymore? Of course not!
If everybody, including Gina Wilson, walked around naked, there is no way we’d be able to tell if the vast majority were intersex just by looking. Certainly all the XXY males associated with Gina Wilson who identify as intersex, or female, have nothing about their physical characteristics to make such a claim. They are phenotypically male, whether they like it or not. I know this by their own public statements, and the fact that they were not diagnosed at birth! They were declared male like all other males with male genitalia, their chromosomes being unknown.
Sometimes XXY’s are born with malformations of their genitalia, that’s how we know they’re XXY, they have genetic testing done to see what sex they were supposed to be, but had an interference in their development prenatally. The same things happen in XY and XX people too, and hopefully the right decision is made. Considering the known emotional disturbance and personality disorders that are associated with being XXY, I would say leaving such boys in an incomplete state would be seriously hazardous to their mental health and well being.
It seems to me the medical profession is doing nothing to assist this created confusion. Most medical reports link XXY to Klinefelter’s syndrome as if they really were synonymous. They are not. Not all XXY males go on to develop the syndrome Dr Klinefelter described. Even XXY males with normally sized and functioning testes are erroneously described as having Klinefelter’s syndrome, which is the symptoms of the disease Seminiferous Tubule Dysgenesis, brought about by atrophied testes. If your testes are normally sized and functioning ,and you’re XXY, you can’t have Klinefelter’s syndrome. There are many different karyotypes that can lead to the development of Klinefelter’s syndrome, including 46XY and 46XX!
Chromosomes are carriers of genetic information. They have no sex of themselves. It is the combination of the genes that are expressed that bring about our sex, how we are seen and how we see ourselves, in association with our environment, our health, our nourishment and our education.
I suggest people ought to get themselves a better education.